The only thing I miss about not having a land line is not having a rotary phone.
Tapping the hook was another way to dial these phones, so it wasn't a terribly effective lock even to someone who didn't carry a lockpicking lawyer in their back pocket.
I remember perfectly this lock. My mother put one on the home phone to prevent me from callin' my girlfriend too frequently and i jammed it lots of time. It must be said that shortly after the 1980s, with the advent of DTMF, decadic phones stopped working in the end. At this point, however, I would like to make a question to the LPL: in public DTMS phones we (young men with a far away girlfriends) were used to "shim" an old phone card in between the lcd display to "block the shortage of the new card" i do not know how it worked but that did the trick. sorry for my bad english, but the kind of public phone i'm talking about, here in Italy, was named Rotor by the telephone company. at that time there were lots of tricks to jam public phones, but now all they are vanished because all of us own a cellular phone. it would be nice to know how this kind of "attack" worked. however LPL is for me one the most interesting channel on YT.
I was born in the '60s, and remember growing up in the '70s. We had a rotary phone, party line, and I remember calling one town away (maybe 15 miles) was subject to "long distance" charges. Funny thing is, I did a lot more talking on the phone then than I do now. The audio quality of phones back then was superior (fully wired connection) to what you get now with cell phones. With cell phones, there is that tiny delay that often causes you to "talk over" the other person, which I find extremely irritating.
Oh, I forgot to mention, when touch tone became available, the phone company charged a monthly fee if you wanted touch tone capability. Many early touch tone phones had a switch that would allow you to select between touch tone and sending the pulses that a rotary dial phone would send. This allowed you to have a push button phone that sent the same pulses as a rotary dial phone and not pay the touch tone surcharge.
My grandmother had a rotary phone even when touch tone came about. She also had one of those locks so I couldn’t use the phone. I had a tape of my friends phone numbers in touch tones and would hold the Walkman headphones up to the handset and push play after I queued up the correct number every time I wanted to call them.
This makes me want to create a lock that uses the actual rotary dial to dial a combination. Then, 80% of the thieves would just be confused just looking at it.
We used the switch hook to dial the phone numbers at the old Boy Scout hut when I was a kid.
Haha, had one on my phone when I was a teenager :D But...you could dial by clicking very easy I don't know the word on English how to say that part you needed to click. Basically how many times you click you get that number, little pause and on to next number
A lock that is easy to open and LPL says it's a good thing? I thought I'd never see the day!
I rented a room where the landlady had installed one of these. Didn't have to crack the lock though. When you dial a number, it pulses the line with the same number of pulses as the digit. You could simulate a pulse by clicking the handrest switch. So to dial 3251 - you'd rapidly click the switch three times, the wait, then twice, wait, then five times and wait and then once. The dial produces about 10 pulses per second, you have to click the handrest switch rapidly and reasonably accurately. But the telephone exchange has a fair degree of latitude for sticky dials, so you can get away with considerable inaccuracy. With practice, you can call any number without removing the lock - or even touching the dial...and nobody would be able to tell that you did it. Because pulse dialling phones are theoretically still usable - you can actually do this with many landline phones - even the ones with pushbuttons.
I remember it ! Almost same in Italy
Or you could just annoy the NHS by constantly dialling 111? Maybe put the thing in 2 so that the emergency services (112) are still available)?
We had these in the UK up to the early 80's. There is a more simple bypass. remove the centre cover of the dialer and remove the centre screw. You can also bend the stop out of the way. Great vids!
If I'd known how easy it was to remove those locks I'd never have bothered teaching myself those phone phreaking tricks. I knew another lawyer whose law career was somewhat dinted when he was arrested for being responsible for 75% of all international calls originating in Oxford (and not having paid for them).
Tap the hook 10 times to dial a '0' and tell the operator what number you wish to connect to.
"in an emergency" - just put the lock in the "0" then you can still dial 9-1-1- or 9-9-9 ...
My mom used one of these because my older sister kept abusing the phone privileges
My aunt lived in a very old house in the 80's (was built in 1860's) and her phone lines in the house only supported rotary. For the first few years she lived there she only had rotary phones. They then finally found a dial phone that had a pulse mode that worked with the lines. I also remember another aunt having an old Mickey Mouse rotary phone in her basement. If she still has that thing it is probably worth some money.
There are also other security bypass means, that don't involve the lcok at all. E.g. by flashing the hook switch to pulse dial without using the dial itself. The way pulse dialing works, is for each of the digits, 1 through 9, and 0, respectively corresponding to 1 through 9 and 10, short open circuit would occur ... which is also about the same as, for each, a brief flash of the hook switch - with on-hook essentially being open circuit (or essentially close enough). Nominal pulse dialing would be 10 pulses per second, 50% on/close, 50% open, but there was very wide tolerance in what was accepted, so from something roughly around 5 to 20 pules per second would work, and probably 50% on/off, likely +-20% or more also worked fine. So, one could quickly "bang" out the pluses 1 to 10 pules for each digit 1 through 9 and 0. And if dialing 7 or 10 digits like that and getting 'em all correct was a bit too challenging, just do a single "0" - ten pulses, ... and one gets the operator, and then something like (and complementary service for the assist at the time), "Operator, I'm having a bit of trouble presently dialing this number, could you please dial it for me", and you give 'em the number and they dial it for you. There were also somewhat similar locks for use on Touch-Tone (R) (generically Dual Tone Multiple Frequency (DTMF)) dial pads, that would attach to lock and cover the whole dial pad. Those could also be bypassed. Just get a pocket Touch-Tone (R) dialer, from, e.g. Radio Shack at the time, for less than about $10.00 USD or so. Lift the receive, put the pocket Touch-Tone (R) dialer to the receiver mouth piece, and dial away. Such was also handy for DTMF services (e.g. controlling an answering machine remotely, or using an alternatively long-distance carrier back when one had to dial a separate (generally local) number to connect to them - then use DTMF to put in an account access code, and then again DTMF to dial the desired long-distance number ... but one might be at a pulse dial payphone, or one's home phone/line might be pulse dial only (back in the day, they' d charge extra for DTMF service (if/when they even offered it), and going back even further, when one had to lease the phone, lease for DTMF phone would always be a higher price than that of a pulse dial phone). Between the simple locks for pulse dial, and DTMF pads, the pulse dial locks was much more common, as the pulse dials were all of quite similar construction ... some of the pay phone would use metal instead of plastic for the part with the finger dial holes, but otherwise their construction was highly similar. The DTMF phones, however, had variation in construction. There were the standard desk phones, and similar wall phones, but then there were also variations such as the "Princess" series, which had very different physical design for the dial pad, so typical dial pad lock for that would be useless ... but by around then or so, the were also making the newer phones with modular plugs - so unplugging the phone and plugging in a different (unlocked) one also became a trivial means to bypass such locks - earlier the phones were hard-wired without a modular plug ... though there did also exist a much older type of plug that could be used - but most of the time there wasn't a plug - and one would have to (and have to know how to) take the phone off the wall, or end of the line (cable) (or bypass it or whatever) to substitute another phone ... which was also generally a technical/legal no-no at the time, as it was phone company owned equipment and line/cable, and various laws/regulations disallowed tampering with the electronics ... heck, even attaching a pen with a self-adhesive sticky tape to stick to the phone was technically a no-no, as that was a "foreign attachment" ... though a detachable lock (since it's not stuck to it with adhesive tape) was permissible. "Of course", way back then, there were also more nefarious (and also more illegal) things that folks could do with phone lines and services back then (like using certain other signalling tones to bypass long distance charges, bypass pay phone coin collection, etc.)
what about 911? This would have worked much better in a country whit a emergency number like 112 then the lock would only be needed to be placed in position 2.
you could dial roatary phones by tapping the hang up button 1 time for 1, 5 times for 5 and 10 times for zero etc. access to the dial was unnecessary.
Ah the good ol days, Was born in '69 and we had a rotary dial until I was 8-9..
My favorite bypass is pulling out a pair of drumsticks and drumming the number on the hangup switches. I am told my mom knew a guy who could do that.
so you can still call 111-1111...
You can dial numbers with the button the phone pushes down when you hang u too if you are good at it.
Before tone dialing, there was pulse dialing and it was possible to tap the receiver rest the right number of times with a short space between digits. I do remember seeing these dial locks in the UK, though. Unfortunately, I am also old enough to remember one telephone area where the phones did not have dials at all and a button had to be pressed to call the operator!
Once I was working on a remote site and the gentleman at the site said he did not know what we were going to do as the telephone's touch-tone keypad had stopped working. (Pre cellphone days.) There was no way to contact the main studio. He was amazed when I "dialed" the number with the switch-hook.
It is a make you feel young video for me. After a long time.
I came across one of these locks after hours in the office while I was attending boy scout camp many years ago. Having just learned about electricity and telephones I knew the dial just interrupted the flow of current. I simply used the hook to tap out my girl friend's phone number. We talked all night.
When I grew up in the 80's every kid knew how to bypass these locks. So many ways to do it.
Maybe better to put it in the 3, at least in my country so you can call the 112 emergency number.
Back when Bell Telephone built phones to last decades and survive nuclear strikes.
How to block people from calling emergency services.
Long distance wasn't just for calls across the country. There was also a thing called local long distance, where you could get charged long distance for calling someone only a few miles away. It felt like such a ripoff to be charged extra for calling a place you could drive to in 15 minutes.
Dial phones still work in England (with slight modification). I have one in my bedroom which works perfectly... the phone that is.
65386 My very first phone number in a time where we didn't even have to dial an area code.
Long distance was still pretty expensive up through the mid 90s. I can remember it was common to have the phone block all long distance calls, and if it was pretty important, you would have to use a payphone. Thank god we had red boxes back then
I know I'm a few months late to this party. For those of you too young to have experienced these types of phones, this is why we say, "dialing" a number. Because it was an actual dial that we used.
Maybe they should make a lock based on the rotary phone dial. None of the younger people would know how to operate it.
Long distance calls weren't the only thing. Back in the '80s, we had "dial-a-porn" to contend with, too.
Is nobody going to mention that this phone has no letter Q or Z?
Some of us older ones could dial, with out removing that, by tapping the rest.
In the UK theres an old saying "will be in in a Jiffy" meaning i'll be in in a sec. i wonder if this lock is the reson for the saying?
I actually looked that one up a while back, and learned that a jiffy is an actual measurement of time in electronics and dates back to the 1700s. Here's a Wikipedia article in case you wanna learn more
This dial is completely different to the one my grandparents had That had the numbers around the outside, 1 finger grove to move the dial with, and you'd move it clockwise until the finger groove lined up with the number.
Things it never is: -A Fluke -Lupus -A romantic gesture that would be acceptable in real life
@Zeth Cader yes, as well as a running gag on LPLs comment section
Is that a House reference?
I countries that did not use a 9 for the emergency number (911, 90000) but instead 112 you could put the lock in the 2 position to allow emergency calls. And this also shows, I have to admit, why putting the 0 at the end of the rotor was a good idea: Just lock up the 9 and you can dial local numbers (including 911), but not get a trunk. Of course, there were ways to beat these system. You normal phone phreak trunk switch is one of them. And a story from my university dorm: They used to have one phone per corridor (basic unit of 8 room that shared a kitchen and a living room) that could only be used for incoming phone calls. There was no way to dial from the phone. Except by emulating the rotary dial using the hook switch. Someone made a lot of long international calls to Iceland, and there was only one Icelandic student living in that house but rumour has it they could still not pin the calls on that invididual, so they removed the phones instead. Right about this time land lines costs were getting lower and the long distance charge between places in Sweden was removed, so most students could afford a land line anyway. Another few years and everyone had a mobile phone.
They were already very old and on their way out when I was a kid, but it is bizzare to seen them explained like some ancient artifacts.
Just jiggle the hook!
In Germany the emergency number was (and is) 112, so you mostly put the lock into the number 3 hole, so that everyone was able to dial the emergency number without any problem.
This video reminded me about an old [Soviet?] joke: "(Phone call) Hello, is this 111-1111? Please call the ambulance, tell them I got my finger stuck in the dialer".
You got me laughing out loud 😂
Tapping the hang up switch would also dial a number. For instance, if you want to dial 3 you click the lever down three times. Pause a second and click it for the next number.
Can be picked in a jiffy, hence the name.
I felt old when I realized that there is a legitimate need for you to explain how a rotary phone works.
I always put the lock on zero
You really didn't need to dial to make a call. The old rotary dial just made and broke the connection. Example if your quickly tapped the hook once for a one, twice for a two or you could just tap ten times and you dialed 0 and got the operator. Hence those scenes in the old movies where a person frantically tapped the hook while screaming "operator". Tapping was quicker than dialing.
I think the lock is made for small children who dial without a sense. And also a kid of that era would never try to pick a lock because if parents will find out , they will beat the kid .
In the 90s, there were jacks that had a lock that physically cut off the connection. Unlike those, you can "flash" the number you want to dial by rapidly pressing the disconnect hook on the cradle. Works fine on any POTS line or VoIP that has pulse to DTMF conversion.
At first I thought that the holes in the dial should be bigger, but it's just that my fingers were smaller last time I used one.
Just keeps honest Thieves honest.
I have a rotary phone on my desk, I like dialing that way
How do bypass the iPhone lock mechanism?
I miss 'real' phones... damn those pesky phone numbers with nines and zeros.... 212 was Manhattan for good reason! Wall Street!!
What's fun about these old style telephones which despite being only 35 I have used is that 999 the British number for emergency services is the longest 3 digit number to dial, thus this phone probably cost many a live.
These were a common sight in my childhood. Growing up in '70s Britain you would see these locks on peoples home phones and on phones in shops and businesses.
Just bend or cut off the stopper tab on the phone up and operate the phone as if it were in that spot, super simple
“For the younger viewers who have never seen a rotary dial phone...” Me who grew up in a museum with a rotary phone I used to play around with, it’s a really great museum that’s super interactive and I still go there at least once a year
Geezus I remember picking this lock 🔐 with a large flat Bobby pin... I never really thought about it much, but I’ve picked or defeated a few locks,... sometimes it’s easier to defeat the locking bolt/slider, than the key itself... ahh teenage years... magnetic door 🚪 locks in buildings are very touchy.... kind of @ssed out without the key... But then again worthless if there is a power loss 😩😩😩
Ellen: laughs at younger viewers for not understanding outdated technology, makes a repeated bit of it LockPickingLawyer: calmly explains how the it works such that nobody is left confused LockPickingLawyer > Ellen
The 1960's...Phone rings...Mom picks up....then yells,"It's New York"...Everyone freezes while mom talks to her brother for no more than 5 minutes...The good old days.
Wow, so that's how phone's used to work... Must have taken forever to text on that thing, having to wait on the dial to spin back around between each letter and all....
i'm glad jiffy didnt stop making cornbread mix though.
I saw the thumbnail and thought for a moment someone had made a novelty combination lock opened with a rotary phone dial.
My freaking ad was longer than how long it took to pick this
*can only dial a series of 1s while locked* Well, here in NZ, it's cool, as it still leaves emergency services open. Elsewhere, I'm not so sure. Probably have to break it off. Of course, there was probably some other way to get emergency services back when this was used.
I've always wondered how those dials worked because I've only ever seen them on TV. Never imagined I'd learn it in a lockpicking video.
So I'm wondering what a Phone this old still wrong in 2020???
In an emergency one could simply bend the finger stop on the dial upwards, allowing the lock to go past it... One would just have to be mindful of stopping at the correct position when they dialed the phone.
That's funny, I wasn't expecting this to be a literal lock for a phone, I figured it was just a lock that used a mechanism like a rotary dial phone for inputing the combination.
I remember these phone locks. The easy way to defeat it was to tap the rest for the handset the same number as times as the number at a rate of about 11 taps per second. Didn’t need to be a lock picker...
Gotta love that line, "Let's try that one more time, so we can see it was not a fluke. " I need to remember that for use with my lady friend.
I was going to ask you to add subtitles to your videos that don't have them, then I checked on how to do it. Never mind. After reviewing the instructions, I find it hard to believe that _any_ UZloadr bothers at all. Ah well.
Adjusted for inflation, that’s 68 dollars a minute. Wtf
Ahhhh. RIP!!! My grandma used to have one of these on her phone back in the day. Rest in peace G'ma. One my grandma also had a big padlock on her refrigerator. 😂😂
If you all want to bust a gut, here is a link to Ellen's Show where she challenges a millennial to use a phone book and dial a number on a rotary phone. It is priceless: uzload.info/fun/qqOaeGayuJ5q2Zc/video
Maybe it was made easy so that you could get it off with some household tools?
The Jiffy lock ....picked in a jiffy 👍🏼🤭
Rotary dial phone is so fun to use. We used to have couple of them in our apartment when I was a teenager.
When the pulse dial phones were already phasing out, you could fast dial with them by using your finger to rotate the wheel on both directions (instead of lifting your finger and let the spring rotate it). I always wondered if this always worked or if it was a late addition to telephone exchanges.
Well in the late 80s or 90s they did "pocket tone dialers" . Would one of these actually work as a bypass ?
"We're going to see what it takes to pick it open" I think we all knew the answer was an embarassingly low amount of skill and effort
Hello LPL! I have had people remove the disk for the fingers on a rotary dial wall phone. I saw this and asked if I could use the phone to make a call. They said "you sure can" with a smirk. They were surprised to learn that you can dial any number by just using the hookswitch to 'make/break' the dialing contacts inside the phone itself. You would pick up the handset and using your finger, just hang up briefly for the number needed. For example the number 785 would be hanging up seven times , pause a sec or two, hang up 8 times and after pausing again, hang up 5 times. thanks for all the videos you put out.
Even if the lock really worked as a lock, you could still tap the desired number quickly by using the handset cradle switch. As children, we did that regularly, and parents rarely noticed the unauthorised use, unless you were too greedy, or were caught red-handed. Use ten taps for 0, and the corresponding number of taps for each other digit. Even many modern international phone systems can still be used by pulse dialling, so your vintage phone will still work.
What if I told you I don't need the dial to make a call from an old dial phone? :) (Carefully timed movement of the hook switch will dial numbers)
I grew up in the 90s, so although touch tone was common, I still knew how to use a rotary phone.
There’s a Facebook video where parents have their two kids 5 minutes to dial a number using a rotary phone. They couldn’t figure it out lol 5-17-20
Bell Canada still uses the long distance rates from the 60s on their bill. They charge 25 cents per minute inter-city and on the bill claim it is a 75% discount.
The problem with that lock is that it would prevent the phone from being able to dial 911 in an emergency. Thankfully not a problem in New Zealand, where I live, and is emergency number is 111.
Even if you couldn't open this lock, you could easily break the plastic around it or even bend the metal part which catches your finger as you dial.
very cool. Learning history in a new way
Funny thing my parents made me learn how to use on of these