Are there any locks you haven't been able to open without destroying the lock and obviously without the key.
Wow! just think of all those people getting free lecky.
gold is cool
would have been harder to open it with the fuckin key
No thanks I'll stick to using a bread tie, as it takes longer to open then the lock
Coin operated meters are still used today in the UK - I am using one! It even got replaced with a new one that accepted the new £1 coins that were brought in in 2017.
This lock is a joke.
LOL, One of those was the first and only lock I picked. My landlord wanted to charge me about 3 times going rate for electric via a coin meter. Which is illegal. So I picked it. He wasn't happy.
Mr Bean had a coin power meter as seen in this clip. uzload.info/fun/q42FfX7Ap4KI35c/video
"...could have lead to losses .." I think you mean "gains"... :-D
No one breaking into the gas or electric meter when I was a kid would have been very happy. Unless they were planning on going on a round the world tour spending one coin in each country.
Pre-paid meters were still definitely around in the late 90s...
When I was living in Kilburn North London back in the early 2000's we had a pay as you go electric meter. It wasn't coin operated. You had a little RFID tag thingy that you took down to the corner shop and loaded credit onto it. Then, when you got back to the flat, you inserted the tag into a slot on the meter to pay for your electricity. Coming from the United States, it felt like the oddest thing ever. Especially since I paid for the gas, telephone and cable TV in the usual way of just getting a bill in the mail.
Only had a few moments before work to see some yt vids. God bless LPL's skills, allowing me to watch multiple ones
Wan't to ensure the taxpayer gets screwed? Entrust government with security !
The coin meters was a joke i used to have a rented T.V that was fooled by a coin on a piece of string lol.
The problem with this method is you wouldn't have been able to access the back of the lock when it was attached to the meter box
There is one of those coin things in an episode of Mr Bean
Wow. I live in that area of the UK!
Back in Uni, almost 30 years ago now, we didn't bother with the lock at all (well, not until we got really bored one night after a few too many drinks). We just made 50 pence coins out of ice and fed it that way. The meter ended up being replaced because it was 'mysteriously' rusting quite a bit. It was put down to a faulty unit and we got away with it. Can also testify that this exploit did /not/ work with the Granada rented TVs... that particular coin meter shorted out the first time we tried it :s
We had one of these on our meter when I was a kid living in the East Midlands. Plenty of people used to fiddle the electric, but as I recall the meter man would come every week and empty the box out counting it all out in front of you. Normally, you overpaid a little (e.g. the meter uses more cash than the electricity actually cost) so you'd get a rebate there and then. I imagine the opposite would be true if there wasn't enough in the meter to cover the electric used (It's still read out on the front of the unit). I imagine if you are desperate enough to need money for food though, this was a viable option. Related to this, when I worked in Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, I personally fitted a bunch of lockable coin operated electricity switches to our rental television sets. We didn't run the scheme for very long, but it worked reasonably well.
So much for the tamper seal! 🔒🔒🔒
Would this exploit have worked if it were secured to a meter? Would the gap that you used to move the lugs still existed if secured? Although probably not answerable for sure.. if we're to assume the answer to the previous two questions is no, then is there another gap that could have been used to manipulate the locking lugs?
id love to see lock evaluations while the lock is attatched to something
I love how his always like: "this is a great lock but if looo at it for three seconds and snap your fingers twice it will pop open"
0:10 when you turn on your computer
he would open my doors faster than me even if i have a key
Slot metres, using a 'key', are still relatively common in some places of the UK. Edinburgh, Scotland for example. I've lived in two flats there that had slot metres.
Little to no losses would be expected from this lock being picked, since the meter also have a counter with a tamper-evident seal. If the counter didn't match roughly with the expected money in the box, you'd expect some legal trouble. Tampering with the seals or with the metering device is another matter entirely.
Honest question here. Do you think you would have been better at houdini? Was he even that great a lock picker? I do believe he was. Please no false modesty.
late 80s we had a recession, no work no money. i remember my dad regularly emptying the 50p meter for food or petrol, i also remember the panic hiding behind the settee when the meter man was due round. oh the good old days lol
I had the version of this used by the south west of England's electricity suppliers. They were secured onto the bottom of the coin box, so getting a tool into the top of the lock was practically impossible. There was only about half an inch of a gap between the lock body and the coin box. Maybe they were relying on that to be able to stop people from just sliding a tool in the top to open it.
Oh shit East Midlands
I would love to see you run a gauntlet how many locks you can open in one time or how many doors you can open and I still think you should do a master class like come on nature is doing one I know nature I was just taking the other person I would love to do a master class with his dime bag Darrell from Pantera and damage plant but that’s not gonna happenRIP dime
I can remember when coin meters for both gas & electricity when I was a kid and always remember everyone easily opening them somehow.
I still have a coin meter in my flat in 2020!
This channel is like if somebody bought a gun and then they have a series of videos: “Karate defeated”, “Judo defeated”, “Jujitsu defeated”
Prepay meters are flawed, people would simply bypass the meter and get un-metered electricity.
Ok, here's the newest level of security in the world of master lock. We put two lock bodies on the two ends of the same shackle. Twice as secure.
I noticed that you sound like TheVirtualEconomist but with a deeper and broader voice
this guy can break into the pentagon
Here is the meter and more locks. Check from 3 13 uzload.info/fun/hYGamIq9l4mg3Jc/video
.....And in case you wish to see the meters in *_Full High Definition:_* *_uzload.info_* There you go. :D -Wayne's Electrical. _3rd July 2020, 01.15_
Mind blow. Have you seen on The last Viking gallium vrs titalium ABBUS lock. .... BOOM!
I remember a friend who had a coin meter and he would be late for work often because the electricity went off in the night and his clock radio died too.
An exploit back then was a coin ice tray! Coins that were just from an ice cube tray. Candle underneath until the water was gone. Free electric!
Ex Meter reader. Though these meters were officially phased out in the 80s they continued to by used into the 1990s. The primary security measure was that a reading was taken each time the meter was emptied and the cash in the box had to match the nominal charge. Also on some types of meter the top of the lock was shrouded making access to the rear of the lock much more difficult
Time travelers in the audience.
I was proud the other day, my oldest has watched a few of your videos with me, and I walk in the house and she tells me that she picked the lock on her diary with a zip tie. Yes it was a cheap lock on a kid’s diary, but she did it all on her own.
If it meant keeping the leccy (electricity) on when you were skint, it got fiddled. Great piece of every day history
I'm British. I vaguely remember having a slot metre as a very young child.
Not read all the comments BUT as someone who had a temporary job fitting these in the 1980’s Whilst these locks were not tamper proof and could easily be opened the customer was not able to get away with anything The meter is installed with no money in it and now electricity used. When the meter reader comes to empty the coins there’s say 100 units used but no coins........ therefore there’s been a theft doesn’t matter if the paper seal is broken or not Added to that the next 100 units will be charged at twice the amount to get the “lost” money back! Not quite as simple as it looked
I watch this channel occasionally, never thinking I would need to know any of this, but a little while back while buying a car the owner couldn't get into his safe for the title, and I managed to get it open by attacking its weak point. And today I got a lock pick kit to get the locking cap off a used gas tank I bought for a motorcycle I am rebuilding. I just wanted to post that because this channel helped with that, and I was happy I managed to do both of those things.
Hello there, LPL. I have watched a fair amount of your videos and now you have got me! You see, you might be interested to know that...... ......I also own a couple of padlocks like this *(Complete With Key!)* but I still have yet to document them on my channel. Now that you have one, let me tell you a bit more about the electricity meters. When you say _"phased out in the late 1980s"_ I can say as a small correction that they were still in use well into the 1990s, as my friend's mother had a coin-op electric meter even in 1995. She refused to let them change it, as the alternative at the time was a bit difficult to get topped up, as it consisted of an electronic 'key' which had to be topped up with credit at only two places. One was at the rent office on the housing estate (later to be heaved out of the wall by vandals using a digger to steal the money inside) and the other one was at the electricity board shop in the town centre a short bus ride away. Who was going to pay for a bus, to then pay for electric? Well, she wasn't!!! Eventually, she had to give it up, as the electric board then refused to carry on emptying the coin box on it. In September 1997, the UK saw a reduction in size of the 50p coin..... A lot of coin-op electric meters accepted the 50p coin anyway, and that spelt the death-knell for a lot of the 50p meters which then went on to be bought up by a lot of meter reconditioners who then bored-out the coin slots to accept the £1 coin. How do I know this? Check my channel to see the electricity meters! I own meters made by Smith, Ferranti and British Sangamo! I have meters which accept a Shilling, Florin, pre-1997 50p coin and the pre-2016 £1 coin. I have many more electricity meters to document, so if you wish, whack the subscribe button now, and of course, hold on for those padlocks! Thanks for showing the one you have. :-) -Wayne's Electrical. _2nd July 2020, 21.00_
my father has the meters these fitted it's a different game on the meter ....SEEBOARD 50 years service he told me most of the fiddles
Hiya. Does he still have the meters? Does he own any Smith or Ferranti ones? See my channel for electric meters. -Wayne's Electrical. _2nd July 2020, 22.05_
The SS & SIS probably knew about it
I could open that quicker when I was 12. And they still have cash meters in UK ob anything from washing machines to electricity but mainly in shared houses/flats, hmo's.
EMEB according to it’s employees in the 1980s stands for Eleven Men Eighty Bosses! It’s a Safety lock not a security lock, the paper prevents any one attempting to open the lock with them knowing that it is on the substation or relay for a reason ie that men are working and the circuit is safe, bypassing the lock could result in loss of life not property
This lock sucks
The design is pretty cool
Wow some interesting stuffs; Nowadays, they use those tamper proof single use plastic locks where they insert a very thin metal wire into that lock which has to be cut off in order to remove the power meter; That way the power company can tell if someone has removed their meter; And I’ve looked at a few different ones in various places and they all have some type of either engraving or numbers stamped on them; However, nowadays power meters can be remotely controlled as well as being monitored wirelessly ; And if you don’t pay your power bill then they can at the touch of a button turn off your power; This modern functionality, allows you to change your power company provider to whomever you want in order to get the best deal for you; So no longer does a meter reader has to come out and take regular meter readings ; everything is wirelessly transmitted back to the mothership and you get your monthly bills through the magic of modern Technology ; However this thing is definitely a blast from the past
One of the best history channels on UZload. lmao
Roses are red, Silent as a mouse, Your lock was bad, Now I’m inside your house.
What is your recommendation on a general purpose lock?
You should try to pick a door lock from Mexico. Some of the keys are like 4,5 inches long
Can u plz try to pick teacherlock
My Gran's flat had a pre-payment meter back in the day! Some are still around today, but I don't think they used coins like they used to.
I think the real challenge would be to find the lock off the cash box off an old radio rentals t.v. I think it was 50p for 12 hours of tv. (I was 5 in 1983when we had one) I can remember the woman coming to the house every month to empty it.
Modern council house electric meter locks that people use are pretty ingenious. Theyre called "stacked bricks"
Blimey! LPL ruins scam for last British pensioner with coin op electric meter!
uzload.info/fun/bH2mmZyto66cu2g/video I want you to try to pick one of these and tell us wether or not it has a flaw. It looks like it might actually be undefeatable
Dear Lockpicking Lawyer,, from one day to another, my conventional door lock (by DOM) on my apartment door started to get tighter, when pulling out the key there is a lot of friction, pulling out just got harder without any reason. Now I am concerned that somebody tried a method of picking my lock and damaged the interior, what I would not expect by using a normal lockpick. Do you have any knowledge about that issue being affiliated with breaking in? might aswell be an aging problems but since i live in a wealthy area it might aswell be a thief. Any thoughts of yours about this would be enlightening. Greetings from Vienna!
Just one more reason to NEVER TRUST A LAWYER.
wow not seen one these for many years very cool my friend🇬🇧😊😎👊👍
Hello from the East Midlands!
The ones down-voting are the ones that consider this lock too hard.
When the meter man came to collect the 50p pieces, as a kid you'd hang around for the rebate you always seemed to get. The meter in our home paid for Gas
This guy seems like he would pick the lock on his door to get in instead of his key
as some other have mentioned the exploit was known along with others, although I do know of a few people who just used the same 50p piece to top up the meter and left the required cash in the box for the collector in notes (yes we had £1 notes back then too)
So back in the day - the easiest way to completely bypass these 50p pre-payment meters was to make a mould out of a 50p coin in Plasticine or similar and make ice 50p coins. The meter would accept these, they would melt and dribble out of the coin box leaving no evidence.
So in the last 3 days or so I’ve watched probably 50 of your videos and for some odd reason I’m now obsessed with locks. Thanks for that. Anyway, I just ordered my first lock picking set and an acrylic clear lock so I can get an understanding of how picking a lock works while I get a feel for it. I guess I’ll go to Walmart and get some Masterlocks to start easy for practice once I’m ready. Anyway, thanks for the new hobby. If I come across an unusual lock I’ll send it your way.
Do you have a top best lockers video?
One use of these was in cheap boarding houses. Back in the 50's, say, the cost of electricity usage would be seen by the landlord as significant, so people staying one or two nights would need to feed a shilling in the meter for light and maybe telly if they were lucky - not likely in a boarding house that charges extra for the lecky.
Could you please unlock Fort Knox? That should give us a video of 23 minutes. Thank you.
Does this trick also work, when the lock is closed?
People still use slot meters in the UK
If this exploit was known no sensible person would basically leave the coin box empty, rather they'd maybe double up 5 our of 20 coins going in and do it soon as it's been emptied so the person collecting the coins doesn't notice the discrepancy in how much is in the meter
This is a good example of a situation where you should demonstrate picking it while locked as it was intended for use. Perhaps it would be positioned in a way that limited access to this exploit?
Have you ever done any videos putting a padlock back together? Would be interesting to see.
Fire up the time machine! We're going back to 1980s Nottingham to steal a bucketload of electricity! I think these must have been quickly detected to be crap. I grew up in the UK in the '70s and '80s in Devon. My mum was poor, we had a slot meter, took 50p peices. Our anti tamper locks were wire wraps with a lead seal. Our local electricity supplier was SWEB (South West Electricty Board). Also Lowe and Fletcher locks were EVERYWHERE. Every filing cabinet or cupboard had an L&F lock on it. They are still going today making the same mildly inconvenient locks - but of course all the filing cabinets and cupboards are made in China now...
By the way, the concept is still in use. The poor in the UK tend to have 'key meters' these days. It's an electronically credited pre-paid key, you take it to a participating shop or whatever and pay them to put credit on your 'key' you then stick it in your meter and enjoy power. These things will let you get in £5 of debt as an 'emergency' feature. It's all pretty grim
But would this attack be doable with it on the meter.
WOW! Havn't seen one of those in years!
Psshhhhtt, we all know the “Midlands” don’t exist. Only North or South /s
We still have prepayment meters in the UK, I have one, but they are now electronic, you charge a plastic key "chip inside" up at local outlets with an amount of money and insert it in the meter witch then tops up by that amount.
Of course it was known. There's many Friday pint been funded by the meter!
My Gran's neighbour emptied these meters for EMEB. What a job...
And I'll add this to the long list of reasons I need to build a time machine. It's a REALLY long list, by the way. Almost as long as my normal to-do list.
I've only seen coin operated electrical meters in Mr. Bean
I remember 50p Coin Electric Meters in the late 70's.... I also remember that you could make 50p shaped ice cubes with Plasticine moulds that would be accepted by the meter and then magically evaporate in the coin box ;-)
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